Once again, another of the "I'm obsessed with the book" variety: a chapter excerpt from Chapter 3 which is titled "CRM, CMR, VRM or...Who Cares?
We'll do the usual - start with the Wordle tag cloud - they are depressingly similar for the most mentioned words - not unexpected though - CRM and Customer, but always unique when it comes to the next level or two down - e.g. social, VRM, CRM 2.0 etc.
Before I do that, I'm going to ask something again. I have to tell you that I'm a little disappointed in the lack of comments I'm getting after requesting feedback via comment or email. I have at least several hundred to an occasion four figure lurkers per day. I know you have cartographic vocal cords, but they aren't being exercised here. Don't take this as an admonishment, but it does make me a little sad. I'm really looking for some feedback. I don't mind criticism or suggestions. Maybe I'm just a jerk for doing this. Tell me if I am. I'm a New Yorker, I'm tough. I can take it. While I can't do much (though since these are pre-edited, I can do some) about the chapters I'm publishing, suggestions on improvement or something that I might have omitted inadvertently would be helpful. This is pretty daunting stuff.
How about a discussion around a concept that might provide further insight? Or even just "attaboy Greenie" wouldn't be out of line either. . Anything to indicate that there's actually interest in the subject would be nice. I know you're all busy - this is an industry that seems to be thriving on the economic downturn. But at the same time, I have a few really good commenters like Paul Sweeney, Glenn Ross, and Jesus Hoyos and then some occasional comments and then radio silence. We're not submerging so its okay to say something. I would truly appreciate it. Really. I'm working very hard on this book, almost literally 24X7, turning away income to make it happen and its probably the most difficult one I ever wrote because the subject matter of CRM 2.0 is far bigger and very differently focused than traditional CRM - so the book is written in a different way and different style. Makes me a little nervous, in fact, because its nothing like the first three editions. I've had to be obsessed with it because of the way that my publisher chooses to receive manuscripts - not the same as it was - and as a result - my deadlines are clinically insane. In the spirit of the social customer, I've made this a community effort and tried to draw in lots of people. But the one thing I seem to be failing at is getting you guys to comment. Some help please?
Okay, that's off my chest. Here's the Wordle.net Chapter 3 diagram and then....TA DA! The excerpt.
(1)From CRM to CMR?
In 2006, Seth Godin reported on his blog that Disney Destinations, the travel and vacation arm of Disney, had changed their acronym from CRM to CMR - from customer relationship management to customer-managed relationships. I'll leave it to you to figure out which was which. Here's a bit of the blog entry "CRM is Dead":
"It might be more than just semantics. Disney Destinations Marketing has a new department:
"Customer Managed Relationships
"Here's the quote from them that Tim shared with me, "CMR is our version of CRM - just a slight nuance regarding our philosophy that our guests invite us into their lives and ultimately manage our presence/relationship with them."
Disney Destinations characterized this as "just a slight nuance." As much as I love Mickey and Goofy - though I'm NOT attracted to Minnie at all - I beg to differ with Disney here. This was by no means trivial; it was a big deal, because it was the reflection of the sea change going on and recognition that the customer was now looking for something quite different than they had in the past several years.
Why would I diss Donald Duck, you might ask? How could I call this more than a slight nuance?
Because in fact, this is a major company that is showing some foresight in the knowledge that the business ecosystem has the customer at its hub. And they aren't the only ones.
In August 2007, George Colony, CEO of Forrester Research put is as succinctly as one can:
"It's now a two-way conversation. Listen, respond and talk intelligently. Stop dictating to customers. It's your customers, not you, who have the power."
None of these are trivial nor and all of them have had real world impact or been driven by real world actions that forced the companies to think about how to handle themselves in this new business environment.
Remember back in Chapter 1, I mentioned Beth Comstock, President of NBC Interactive Media? Why she agrees with George Colony was made very clear in a Washington Post are article on October 21, 2006:
"NBC Universal announced sweeping cuts to its television operations yesterday, demonstrating just how far a once-unrivaled network must now go to stay competitive with YouTube, social networks, video games and other upstart media."
NBC wasn't doing this out of their love for customers or an attempt to pander to youth particularly. They were slammed with the changing business environment and had come face to face with the forces that were driving that change and it damaged them.
Their losses were material. They made $750 million in budget cuts and staff cuts of 750 directly attributable to "YouTube, social networks, video games and other upstart media."
This social change is not a joke, nor is it a trivial matter for any institution - and business is going to be particularly impacted by it.
What Disney Destinations was doing was making decisions to provide their customers and those just interested in testing their services the means to control their own experience with Disney Destinations. The idea was simple. Provide online tools such as a trip planner so that a family can plan its trip to a Disney property or through a Disney agency down to the details. They can identify the locations, length of stay, prices, extras, and means of travel. All in their time, all under their aegis. This would enhance the experience the customers had with Disney, making travel planning simple and not stressful - which as you know is a HUGE issue in travel planning. You know it, because you know how stressed that you get.
But this was only a first step and a harbinger of things to come less than a year later. Customers managing their own relationships were a step in the personalization of the customer's experience with a company. But personalization of the experience was still insufficient, however important it can be. It is only a first step in what is now….
(1)CRM 2.0
CRM 2.0. The reason this book is even being written. I have to admit, I'm a bit concerned that you might not listen to what I have to say. But that's at your own risk and come what may, this is the time for your adoption of these new strategies. If you can acknowledge that the customers are running the show, this would be a big first step. The sooner you do this, the sooner you can execute an appropriate CRM 2.0 program and strategy that will engage those very empowered customers. What I'll do here is begin by providing you with the first definition of CRM 2.0 largely shaped by the CRM community on a wiki that has around 300 participants. The purpose of the wiki is to come up with a definition of CRM 2.0 that is acceptable to the overall industry and its practitioners so that the self-aggrandizing definitions of CRM 1.0 will be a thing of the past - and we can commonly agree on something. A standard if you will. Here it the 1.0 definition of CRM 2.0.
"CRM 2.0 is a philosophy & a business strategy, supported by a technology platform, business rules, processes and social characteristics, designed to engage the customer in a collaborative conversation in order to provide mutually beneficial value in a trusted & transparent business environment. It's the company's response to the customer's ownership of the conversation."
You'll note there is a difference between the definition of CRM 1.0 and CRM 2.0 in this chapter. That difference actually implies an entirely different set of strategies, models, technology use and process conception.
(2)Differences Between Traditional CRM and CRM 2.0
The underlying principle for CRM 2.0's success is very different than its predecessor.
As I've already established, traditional CRM is based on an internal operational approach to manage customer relationships effectively. But CRM 2.0 is based on the ability of a company to meet the personal agendas of their customers while at the same time meeting the objectives of their own business plan. It's aimed rather at customer engagement than customer management.
In fact, my contention, in that strange dialect I call Greenbergese, is that the CRM technologies that we have been used to, such as sales, marketing and support applications, even the on-demand versions of those, are not the technical capital of the 21st century's "era of the social customer." In fact, because the customer is not just becoming the central repository for value, but wants to actively participate in value creation with business, it is the consumer technologies and those service offerings adopted as platforms for individually meaningful "life choices" that are where CRM technology needs to be. This doesn't mean that I'm saying goodbye to Siebel, Sage, Oracle, SAP or any of the on-demand vendors. However, their technologies will have to evolve and not just associate with some reorganized contemporary set of business processes. They will have to integrate the features of newer technologies that faciliate market conversations, social networking, user communities and the like - in other words, that exist to transform and operate businesses not just as process-pushing producers but as aggregators for and partners in the customer value chain (more on that below). That will probably come later than sooner - we may be a few years away from that. I don't know yet. But there are some things that are both happening now and need to happen now. Even though the on-demand "software as a service" (SaaS) paradigm is fairly new, it needs to begin moving now to a new paradigm of "platform as a service" (PaaS). So that when you as a customer buy a laptop or a cellphone for example, whatever your specific purposes, you are choosing a piece that will fit into the platform that you are going to use or are using for the services and associated goods you need to conduct your life - which among other things, consists of business services - meaning that there are businesses associated with them.
The differences are deep, though all the differences are permeated with either the principles or practices of managing customers or involving them in the activities of the company in a mutually beneficial way. Take a look at Table 3-1. This table is the differences as defined by a community of CRM professionals - some 300 of them - who are congregated around a wiki that's spending time constantly refining what CRM 2.0 is. If you want to participate, please feel free to go to crm20.pbwiki.com and jump right in. The password is CRM20.
Spend some time investigating here because the rest of the book is going to be spent in explaining all the things that you are reading on this table - with the experts who are involved chiming in to help.
CRM 1.0 Features/Functions
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CRM 2.0 Features/Functions
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Customer facing features - sales, marketing & support. Still isolated from back office, supply chain
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Fully integrated into an enterprise value chain that includes the customer as part of it
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Tools are associated with automating functions
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Integrates social media tools into apps/services: blogs, wikis, podcasts, social networking tools, user communities
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Automate interaction history for lead nurturing and relationship building
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Utilize knowledge in context to create meaningful conversations
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Models customer processes from the company point of view
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Models company processes from the customer point of view
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Recognizes that the customer relationship encompasses information-seeking and information-contributing behavior
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Resided in a customer-focused corporate business ecosystem
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Resides in a customer ecosystem
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Utilitarian, functional, operational
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All those plus style and design matter
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Marketing focused on processes that sent improved, targeted, highly specific corporate messages to customer
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Marketing is front line for creating conversation with customer - engaging customer in activity and discussion - observing and re-directing conversations among customers
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Business produces products & creates services for customer
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Business is an aggregator of experiences, products, services, tools and knowledge for the customer
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Intellectual Property protected with all legal might available
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Intellectual property created and owned together with the customer, partner, supplier, problem solver
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Business focus on products and services that satisfy customers
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Business focus on environments & experiences that engage customer
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Tactical and operational
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Strategic
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Customer strategy is part of corporate strategy
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Customer strategy IS corporate strategy
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Innovation from the designated
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Innovation from both internal and external sources
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Focus on Company Customer Relationship
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Focus on all iterations of the relationships (among company, partner(s), customer(s)) and specifically on identifying, engaging and enabling the "influential" nodes
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Company manages the relationship with the customer
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The customer collaborates with the company
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Technology focused around operational aspects of sales, marketing, support
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Technology focused on both the operational and the social/collaborative and integrates the customer into the entire enterprise value chain
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Relationship between the company and the customer was seen as enterprise managing customer - parent to child to a large extent
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Relationship between the company and the customer must be peer to peer (C2P or P2C so to speak) and yet the company must still be an enterprise in all other aspects.
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Insights and effectiveness were optimally achieved by the single view of the customer (data) across all channels by those who needed to know. Based on "complete" customer record and data integration Insights are a considerably more dynamic issue and are based on 1. customer data with single view being important; 2. customer profiles and the social characteristics associated with them 3. customer participation in the activity acquisition of those insights
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Insights and effectiveness were optimally achieved by the single view of the customer (data) across all channels by those who needed to know. Based on "complete" customer record and data integration. Insights are a considerably more dynamic issue and are based on 1. customer data with single view being important; 2. customer profiles and the social characteristics associated with them 3. customer participation in the activity acquisition of those insights
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Table 1: Differences between CRM 1.0 and CRM 2.0 (source: CRM 2.0 Wiki)
(1)CRM 2.0 Technology: Features, Functions, Characteristics
The differences don't stop there. Even the technology and the approaches to the technology are different.
Traditional CRM technologies have always been defined by features and functions. What are the technology tools and available automation that the vendors provide that can make the operations of a company more effective when it comes to managing the customers' interactions with the company - or, as CRM got increasingly sophisticated, optimizing the customers' experiences with the company.
For example, here's how the data sheet reads for Maximizer CRM 10.0 Sales Force Automation:
- Maximizer CRM 10 for Sales
- Features
- Account and contact management
- Time management
- Task management and automation
- Sales force automation
- Sales forecasting
- Marketing automation
- Email marketing
- Customer service management
- Microsoft Office integration
- Outlook & Exchange synchronization
- Accounting integration
- Business Intelligence
- Workflow automation
- Partner relationship management
- eBusiness
- Access options: Windows desktop,
- Web, mobile devices, remote
- Synchronization
Entirely straight forward listing of what is generally included into the CRM 10 for Sales application - one, which incidentally, is well suited for small and the low end of medium businesses. These features are also representative of those offered by most small and medium business (SMB) -focused CRM suites.
But Maximizer CRM 10 for Sales is not a CRM 2.0 application by any stretch of the imagination. The closest "feature" that fits a CRM 2.0 technology profile is mobile device access. The rest is the historical and traditional CRM that we know and….whatever we think of it.
However, as Jerry Seinfeld once said, "there's nothing wrong with that."
But it isn't enough when it comes to customers whose trust lies in their peers and the personal interactions with those peers are the bonds that strengthen the trust.
(2)The 360° View Isn't Enough
But why isn't the Holy Grail of traditional CRM, the 360° view of the customer with a single customer record enough to monitor the interactions and provide the insights?
After all, if you could achieve that complete customer record and make it available consistently across departments, you had what you needed, right?
You'd think so if you heard these quotes:
"When running a multichannel retail operation, the most valuable resource is having a single view of leads, prospects and customers across different channels." (DM News, March 2007)
"Nationwide Gains a "360-Degree" View of the Customer to Advance Its "On Your Side" Promise" (Tech Republic White Paper)
"You and everyone else in your organization want to know everything possible about your customers. You want a single view of the customer that everyone across the enterprise can use. There's nothing new about this. Businesses have been trying to get a single view of their customers and prospects for years." (Informatica marketing collateral)
In fact, if you Google (in quotes) "single view of the customer" there are 107,000 references to that exact phrase.
Yet, while certainly valuable (and we'll discuss more on it in Chapter 18 on Customer Data Integration), it is DATA. That is d-a-t-a. That means NOT insight, NOT behavior, NOT a substitute for judgment, NOT a way to engage customer. It is a state devoutly to be wished when the ecosystem is owned by the company, not the customer, because when the ecosystem is owned by the customer, the customer is carrying on important parts of the business conversation well beyond the company's walls and out of the company's immediate earshot. Certainly the 360° view is valuable because it can provide you with a customer's transaction histories and the interactions with the different departments that he or she has had which gives you some knowledge to begin to develop an increased understanding of your customer. But this former Holy Grail is now just a pre-requisite for customer insight, not a state of grace to be achieved.
(3)Doing More to Get Their ATTENTION!
Why is so much knowledge needed and why a great depth of insight? Why not just basic patterns of activity or a reasonable but not deep knowledge of the customer's other interests?
Because, my future and current colleagues and friends, readers and buds, the competition for that customer has left the halls of similar product offerings from competitive companies. Your competition is no longer your Coca Cola v. Pepsico. Its Coca Cola v. Pepsico and every single message that a single customer gets in a single day. You aren't competing for their purchase at this stage. Because of the incredible proliferation of information, available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week from multiple channels, you are competing for the attention of the customer. While we're going to cover that in a later chapter (Chapter 16 on the attention economy), the level of personal knowledge and insight you need for a customer is of a magnitude that is affected by the 3000 messages that each customer gets each day - a lot of noise that they may not answer, but they also don't differentiate often between you and that noise. Again, more later.
Before we take this to the deepest part of centerfield, let's look at what it is that's getting pitched. There is a combination of components that are critical for deep insight that are not the same components you might be used to - or, most of them aren't.
- Data - This includes the information that the company can gather through the activities of the customer involving the company. That means purchase histories, returns, visits to ecommerce or website and time spent on different pages; marketing response to campaigns and customer service inquiries and problems, among many others.
- Profiles - This is the "personal" information that is now so important in gaining customer insights into how a customer wants to interact with the company. This could be their movie and literary interests, their hobbies, their "style" likes and dislikes, their unstructured text comments in a community or social network that is either owned by you or deals with your company's interests e.g. Yelp for a restaurant or a geographically based retailer. With the growing interest in micro segmentation (see Chapter 16 on the Public Sector) - the deep dive into the customer's lives (hopefully, without being intrusive) to understand their style and selection choices for predicting future sometimes apparently unrelated behaviors, profiles become essential.
- Customer Participation - This is their active involvement in supporting your development of insight into their interests including interactions through mapping experiences and customer's individual interests in fostering the relationship between the company and the customer. It's the difference between marketing presuming they know what the customer is thinking (which, take my word and check out Chapter 13 on Sales and Marketing, they almost always do) and actually asking the customer what they're thinking and expecting. Customer mapping (see Chapter 21) is one method of finding that out.
Okay, components, understood. What's the rest?
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